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whatzit

New postPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:38 pm
by perby
Hi,
I think I know what it might be, but am unsure.
Living in Northern BC, where the sternwheelers used to ply the Fraser River in the late 1800, early 1900's, and living on aid river, where there was an old sternwheeler dock at one time,
I think they are a con rod, likely connecting the engine to the sterwheel.
Any other suggestions I am open to,
What do you think,
Thanks,
Bill

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New postPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:15 pm
by MikeM
Something one uses with a horse?

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New postPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 4:55 pm
by veritas
Very cool item , would be nice to see the boat and its steam engine too.

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New postPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 10:34 pm
by perby
I think that the only place one might see these would be in a museum.
It was kind of strange I was talking to my neighbor and saw one of them standing up against a tree, and just asked what they were etc. She stated that her father had found them on a sand bar in the Fraser in the 40's, and he had thought they were the rods connecting the power source to the paddle wheel, seeing as theses are about 8 feet long, I might think that they would have been from a side wheeler, rather than a stern wheeler, seeing as they both did operate in the Fraser. I have been trying to do research on them, but as yet have not come up with anything conclusive.
Mike,
I don't think they would be part of, or used as something to go onto, a horse harness of any type, just because they are quite heavy at about 80 to 100 pounds apiece, bur hey what do I really know,
Thanks to both of you,
Bill

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New postPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 2:59 pm
by pocwatjim
Bill,

I believe you are correct about these or are on the right track.

They do look like connecting rods for an engine,especially the bottoms, with bearings that unbolt to replace them when they wore out just as would do for bearing in an engine.

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New postPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:51 pm
by Stephan
Almost right.

Same idea but in a steam engine there are 3 rods.

1 con rod to transmit the power.
There were also 1 or 2 valve rods to operate the valve gear.
1 rod on a non reversible engine and 2 on a reversible engine.

Thus - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJv0BL6GFRo

I think you have a pair of valve rods.

The give away is the large diameter of the fittings on the end.
These would be the eccentric straps that fit over the eccentrics.

A con rod would have a smaller diameter and much more substantial arrangement.

Could be from a large stationary engine as well.

Another clue is that there is a pair.

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New postPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:41 pm
by perby
Steve and Jim,
I think that the quiz is solved, I believe as Steve has said they are the valve rods, one that would drive the paddle wheel. The large fittings at the end appear to have had a babbit seal on them.
Seeing as they had been found on the banks of the Fraser River here, I have no reason to believe that they did not come off on one of the early paddle wheelers that did run up and down the river in the early 1900's until the mid 1920's, bringing goods, people, and supplies, to the various towns and villages along the river. Also seeing as they were actually found in the sand on the banks of the river. As I stated before I would think that these came from a side wheeler, rather than a stern wheel, only because of the length of them, that being about 8 feet long, and I do not know what sort of attachment they had on the wheel end, but feel that I have almost got the complete rod. I am checking with a local historian from the local museum, just to try and identify what sort of boat they came from, and to possible date these, and it would be great to establish what boat they might have come from, I believe that there was only 8 or so paddle wheelers made, that came up to this part of the river, and these were both side and stern wheel boats.
Thanks again for confirming what I had thought they were, just not knowing the right name for them.
Bill