A few of my oddball or seldom found watches

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A few of my oddball or seldom found watches

New postby perby » Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:31 pm

Here are some pictures of a few watches that are sometimes difficult to find or just different.
The Waltham vanguard has a rn dial seldom seen.
The Elgin Gr. 150 is the 29th 1st run of a 20 jewel watch.
The longines Express leader was used on Canadian RR.
The Hy Moser was RR grade and believed to be used on some cdn rr.

I was going to put pics of several of my "92"s, that I really like, but felt everyone, even newcomers would have already seen them.
Enjoy.
Bill

Waltham WI 003 [].jpg
Waltham WI 005 [].jpg
Elgin 20 jewel 150 001.jpg
Elgin 20 jewel 150 004.jpg
Longines Ex. Leader 19j RR.jpg
Longines Ex. Leader mvmt.jpg
Burl Hy Moser 1729700 001.jpg
Burl Hy Moser 1729700 004.jpg
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Re: a few of my oddball or seldom found watches

New postby 4brokenow » Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:49 pm

The Hy Moser was RR grade and believed to be used on some cdn rr.


Bill Does "Hy Moser" at the bottom have a Burlington dial? I'm not familiar with Hy Moser. Looks very nice and very high grade.

The Waltham dial looks familiar but maybe I'm recollecting a non-wind indicator.

I never knew Elgin made a 20 jewel. I would have thought they would stamp the jewel count on the plate. What was their thinking with the 20 jewel model? Why 20 and not 21-jewel? I presume the Center wheel at the Main plate is not jeweled? -Very interesting to say the least.
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Re: A few of my oddball or seldom found watches

New postby perby » Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:40 am

Hi Phil,
Yes the Hy Moser has a Burlington dial, Burlington had some watches made with Hy Moser movements, although not to common there was several made.
The Elgin grades 149 (HC) and 150's (OF), early during the first runs, after that they were marked with 21 jewels. I think it was somewhere mid run that they changed.
Yes the Waltham had a similar dial on the non wi watches, I again think I was told that there had only been eight or nine noted with this wi dial.
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Re: A few of my oddball or seldom found watches

New postby MikeM » Sat Feb 10, 2018 6:01 pm

Awesome watches Bill! I love the damaskeening pattern on your grade 150. I have a few of the higher grade 18s Elgins, but I never found a 20j, nor have I seen that pattern before.
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Re: A few of my oddball or seldom found watches

New postby perby » Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:20 am

I guess I should include this Gallet in my strange ones. This is a 21 jewel 5 position watch.
I am sure that they made them look like the Waltham 92's, seeing as the were retailed by the T. Eaton Co. and Eatons main RR watch was Waltham
Bill

Eaton 21j 001.jpg
Eaton 21j 006.jpg
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Re: A few of my oddball or seldom found watches

New postby 49stude63 » Thu Sep 06, 2018 4:29 pm

On the 20j 150 they appeared to change the dmk and dial look during the run, I have two 20j 150s and 2 20j 149s and they both have a different look. In the range of 500 +/- 20 Elgin switch both the 149 and 150 over to 21 jewels and marked it on the bridge plate. I have never seen a 20 jewel 149 or 150 marked 20 jewel that did not look like it was hacked on and that is one of the biggest tip offs if it is a 20 jewel, no 21 Jewel marking on the plates.
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