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Hand Vise

New postby Marty101 » Fri Feb 24, 2017 11:42 am

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Friends many of you are familiar with the hand vise. I have never used them much because I found them too delicate. I'd tighten too hard and the parts would separate from the brass ferules. This different type (on the right and alone) is stronger in that regard,but seems impossible to get flush when tightened. Has anyone used these?
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Re: Hand Vise

New postby Tom Huber » Sat Feb 25, 2017 2:08 am

Hi Marty, I've used one of those successfully for years for broaching out hands. When the hand is too small ro fit on the hour wheel or cannon pinion, this is the tool. Of course, you must have a good set of hand broaches to get the right cut.

Insert the hand into the proper hole diameter on the broaching vice. Tighten it down to ensure the hand does not move. Get in there with the right size broach. It is trial and error until you get the right size to tap onto the cannon pinion.

It takes some practice.

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Re: Hand Vise

New postby Marty101 » Sat Feb 25, 2017 2:20 am

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Tom there is a spring between the plates that flattens when tightened. Mine flattens apparently correctly (does not fold on itself) but still takes up a bit of space between the plates when they are closed. The plates don't get close enough to hold a minute hand tightly. Not sure what is up with that-?
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Re: Hand Vise

New postby Neilywatch » Sat Feb 25, 2017 8:23 pm

Marty - your tool is for clock hands - it is not suitable for PW hands.

There is a hand tweezer that does the same job but is better in the sense when you are putting too much torque on the hand while broaching you can feel it in your fingers.
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Re: Hand Vise

New postby Marty101 » Sun Feb 26, 2017 1:34 am

Neil,it did seem like an "hour hand only" tool ;I couldn't be sure if it was not working correctly or I wasn't using proper technique. It did seem to be made for larger hands and my first reaction was that it was only good for hour hands,which seemed too limited and not at all practical. Dealing with pocket watches only, I just never think in terms of larger clock type sizes.
That said it is better made and if not for that gap I'd use it exclusively.
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Re: Hand Vise

New postby Stephan » Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:20 am

I have been told these are not a watch tool at all but rather for holding round objects like beads so you can drill a hole through them.

Used by people who make jewelery.

The thicker one on the left is also for that purpose but does work for watch hands as it is more rigid.

I have one of those as well as a proper hand holding tool build more like a pair of pliers.
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Re: Hand Vise

New postby Marty101 » Fri Jul 07, 2017 10:15 am

Steve-like pliers? That sounds ideal. How about a pic if you have time?
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Re: Hand Vise

New postby Stephan » Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:44 pm

Alas no make on them . Just a number "1" on end of one handle and " 15 " on end of other.

Holes for bigger hands and slots at front for smaller ones. Sliding ring to lock tool closed.

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Re: Hand Vise

New postby Marty101 » Tue Jul 11, 2017 10:30 am

Thank you for that Steve. Looks better made.
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