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Philly Help

New postby Marty101 » Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:06 am

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Still working on my Philadelphia movement. I have a friend trying to turn a balance staff right now,but have a question about the cannon pinion-is it friction fit? Or part of the staff?
I don't have the KW/KS movement in question,but I do have a KW/PS to show if it helps. If I'm only confusing things here,forgive me!...I am not sure how much the two movements have in common,but they certainly were similar.
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Re: Philly Help

New postby Tom Huber » Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:27 pm

Marty, It might be a hollow center wheel, ie cannon pinion does not pull like a regular one.

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Re: Philly Help

New postby richiec » Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:07 pm

Marty, that looks like the type that you support the plate and gently drive the shaft out through the cannon pinion.
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Re: Philly Help

New postby Marty101 » Thu Jan 28, 2016 2:56 am

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You two are golden. I'll pass this on to my pal Hap;I'm sure he can get it now.
These movements are beautiful-that's what attracted me in the first place-but there's not much you can compare to an American RR pocket watch! I had a big surprise when I took off the dial to adjust the setting. Want a look? ;)
First pic: in the almost exact center you will see the raised above the plate edge(engaged)setting spring. The detent screw alongside it pushes the spring away from the inner plate edge,trapping the stem body and allowing the mechanism to engage when the crown is pulled. This might take a little imagination until I get a pic with the crown/stem assembly for you...
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Re: Philly Help

New postby Marty101 » Thu Jan 28, 2016 3:05 am

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OK-I'm sharing this because it's a first for myself,too. Not many Philadelphia movements have been showed off over the years,and it' s about time.
I will have follow ups and more on these E. Paulas movements....
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Re: Philly Help

New postby KeithR » Thu Jan 28, 2016 5:06 pm

I remember this one Marty. Nice to see it again. Keith
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Re: Philly Help

New postby Marty101 » Thu Jan 28, 2016 7:41 pm

Well,it's not your memory failing you it's my posting-this Philly is a look-alike. Reread the first post!
This is my second Philadelphia E. Paulus movement!
I have pics of this one up as a substitute for the one you remember. My first,a KW/KS, is being repaired. This one is a KW/PS/ transitional and she is SW also. I don't see this in the Book and admit I am new to these.
I bought this second movement pictured here as a parts junker for the first,now hopefully being repaired-but since this runs what's a poor boy to do? :lol:
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Re: Philly Help

New postby KeithR » Fri Jan 29, 2016 4:31 am

Well, I'm 60 now and slept since then boss. Sell the one that needs a stem and keep the one
that uses a key. Life is simple. Keith
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Re: Philly Help

New postby Marty101 » Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:43 am

My life was simple until I got into POCKET WATCHES! :lol:
Now,I have a pal named Hap Cardwell who wants to help and make that stem. What can I say? "No"? Ha!
Hopefully he will get that staff out today-he tells me the new one is made and waiting...
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Re: Philly Help

New postby Marty101 » Sat Jan 30, 2016 11:34 am

OK friends-here's where we are... Hap is too worried about damaging the watch. He's not convinced the staff will tap out correctly. So,he's mailing everything back to me,with the new staff he made,and I'm going to have my man Rob Carter take a look. Wish us all luck...
I shall return.
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Re: Philly Help-I'm Back!

New postby Marty101 » Sun Mar 20, 2016 3:56 pm

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Back after almost two months to show off my Philadelphia running great. She's got a new staff made by Hap Cardwell,and Rob Carter cleaned her up ,adjusted the hair spring and more. It's only been 20 hours running time so far, but she's running almost to the second. I'm here to show off a couple pics as promised... :)
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Re: Philly Help

New postby cannon pinion » Sun Mar 20, 2016 4:08 pm

Beautiful watch. Anytime you want to feel confused, just take the dial off and contemplate that setting mechanism!
Kudos for finishing it up so nicely.
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Re: Philly Help

New postby Marty101 » Sun Mar 20, 2016 6:35 pm

Agreed. I really gotta get back on USA territory. I'm confused enough these days. :?
-But man,is she running great!
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