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Mainspring winder

New postby Irwin » Fri Sep 12, 2014 2:37 pm

I am thinking about getting a mainspring winder for clock springs.
My criteria are ease of use and price.
Any recommendations?
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Re: Mainspring winder

New postby Pete Cronos » Fri Sep 12, 2014 2:49 pm

I would suggest that you look at the one that is called Ollie Baker design.
They are a little pricey for a new one but if you shop around you may find a good used one.
Do a eBay search to see what one looks like.
Also Keith has one for sale at http://watchtoolsonline.com/Ollie-Baker ... -09704.htm.
If you attend the larger regionals Keith is the one with all the nice lathes and accessories.
There are many different ones available so ask others what they like the best.
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Re: Mainspring winder

New postby Neilywatch » Wed Sep 17, 2014 12:18 am

If you weren't so far away I would offer to sell you my clock winder set. I don't know what brand it is, but it is complete with instructions.
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Re: Mainspring winder

New postby veritas » Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:02 pm

I suggest the Joe Collins winder, if you go to Youtube you can see Joe using it, then you will need capture sleeves as well. I have one and like it, much cheaper than the Ollie even if you make it your self.
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Re: Mainspring winder

New postby Irwin » Sun Sep 21, 2014 6:02 pm

I looked at the Youtube video of the Joe Collins winder, certainly cheaper, but then I would need to look around for sleeves. It bothers me that it doesn't come complete and ready for use, which makes it a non-starter for me. Surely it would make more commercial sense to also include the sleeves.
Consequently, I'm moving in the direction of the Ollie Baker version. It looks like a substantial tool, and for an additional $80, which probably wouldn't cover the cost of the sleeves needed for the Collins winder.
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Re: Mainspring winder

New postby Irwin » Thu Sep 25, 2014 10:42 am

I decided to go for the Ollie Baker and it's on its way.
This is going to be my first mainspring repair issue.
It looks like it has seized up in the barrel. Presumably just worn out.
Could a spring like this be fixed, or do I assume the remedy is going to be a new spring?

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Re: Mainspring winder

New postby Pete Cronos » Thu Sep 25, 2014 11:27 am

I believe a new spring is the only fix for this one.
Don't look like a winder will be required for removal.
Just a suggestion when doing springs. Make a little drawing or note of how the spring goes into the barrel or clock before removal.
It is easy to mount some springs backwards and you do not realized this until you have it in the barrel and the arbor doesn't fit or it doesn't fit into the clock.
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Re: Mainspring winder

New postby Irwin » Thu Sep 25, 2014 11:56 am

Thanks Pete.
Sounds like words of experience.
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Re: Mainspring winder

New postby Pete Cronos » Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:49 pm

Yes it gets to be a problem when you have the spring in the barrel backwards.
Some barrels have hooks that allow the spring to be mounted in either direction.
Email me if you are looking for additional tools and I will keep and look out for them.
Also I can supply most Sherline items if interested.
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Re: Mainspring winder

New postby veritas » Sat Sep 27, 2014 7:57 pm

The Ollie is nice, but i prefer the original, not the Ollie style. My JC winder is a great tool for the money.
Good advice on making a note which way spring goes, been there before, uggh.
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Re: Mainspring winder

New postby brownsrplm » Thu Oct 02, 2014 2:26 pm

Pete,
Do you have a list of tools you have? If so, PM me will you, I may need a tool or so that you may have.
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Re: Mainspring winder

New postby Irwin » Fri Oct 10, 2014 4:46 pm

The mainspring winder has arrived. I'm unable to use it for the moment because the mainspring let down tool that I have has a round shaft, while this winder requires a hexagonal shaft, so I've had to order a new set of hexagonal letdown tools. It'll take another few days.
I've watched a couple of You Tube clips demonstrating how to use it and comparing the demos with the winder, it seems to be straightforward. However I haven't figured out the purpose of the pin (see pic - red arrow). The only thing I can think of is that's it's a hand rest(?). Is this correct?
I also see that there is an option to either use a hose clamp, which came with the winder, or a gloved hand to hold the barrel. I think the hinged lever on the winder is a stop that engages the hose clamp and thereby prevents the barrel from rotating.

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Re: Mainspring winder

New postby Pete Cronos » Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:02 pm

That piece of the winder comes off and is turned around and reinstalled.
It is for Loop end mainsprings.
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Re: Mainspring winder

New postby Irwin » Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:54 pm

Thanks Pete.
I'm glad I asked, otherwise I would never have known. The accompanying instructions/explanations are very sparse.
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Re: Mainspring winder

New postby Irwin » Sat Oct 11, 2014 4:27 pm

Finally kitted up with the let down tool to fit the winder, and got to work on the first spring.
Put on my leather gloves and safety glasses.
I followed the You Tube clips and tried to imitate them. I survived, though I had some very shaky moments fearing an explosion.
The main thing I did wrong was not to leave enough spring 'end' coming out of the clamp, so I had to bend it to be able to catch the hook to wind the spring out of the barrel. The hook kept slipping out of the hole during that procedure and it didn't do my nerves any good.
When it came to getting the spring back into the barrel and winding it to get it out of the clamp, I couldn't hook the hole onto the rivet. I realised it was because I had bent the 'end' in the first place. With needle nose pliers and repeated attempts, with much anguish I eventually got it to hook back on to the rivet and got the spring back where it came from in its barrel. Banged the cap on and sighed with relief.
Beginner's issues...maybe I'll improve with practice.
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