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992 in base metal case.

New postPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:04 pm
by Radar
I found this Hamilton 992 online and thought that the price was reasonable. I'd like the experts to give their opinion on $195 for this 992.
I tried to xfer the pictures in but they will not enlarge so here is the web site.

http://www.rubylane.com/item/738154-PW1/Hamilton-992-Railroad-Grade-16

This Hamilton 992 watch was manufactured in 1919. The 992 was a 16 size railroad grade watch and highly respected among watch collectors. It is stem wound and lever set to prevent accidental changes to the time. This model has a 30 hour mainspring, 21 jewel movement, double roller, and adjusted to 5 positions for extreme accuracy. We have tested this watch before putting it up for sale and it runs smoothly and accurately. However, as with all vintage items, we cannot guarantee it will continue to operate indefinitely without proper service and maintenance.

This watch has a very nice double sunk porcelain dial accented by a thick beveled crystal that protects it well. The dial appears perfect with no scratches, cracks or chips. The hands are proper and original blued spade type, showing no signs of rust or wear.

The case is a proper base metal open face model that would have been used by a working man who invested his money in a fine watch movement, sparing little for the adornment of the case. The case shows honest wear with some dents on the back cover attesting to this status.

After more than 90 years of service this watch continues to show its quality. This fine example is offered below the average buying price listed in the 2010 guide.

Radar

Hamilton 992 Railroad Grade 16 Size Pocket Watch

Re: 992 in base metal case.

New postPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:42 pm
by veritas
Hi Dennis i think that is not a bad price for such a watch.The only other thing i would add is if you did intend to wear it daily then it would need a clean and oil, which can be around 200 dollars or more.

Re: 992 in base metal case.

New postPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 5:55 pm
by MikeM
Dennis,

The 992 is a great watch for beginning collectors, but I honestly believe that for that price, you could do better. I have seen plenty of nicer ones go for $200 or less lately.

On this one the dial and hands appear okay, but the base metal replacement case (which is probably at least 20 years newer than the movement) is in bad shape and adds nothing to the value of the movement. These short-pendant base metal cases were mostly sold as a cheap replacement for "grandpa's old watch" after most people were wearing wrist watches...or so I am told.

What bothers me more though, is that someone who very obviously didn't know what they were doing seems to have used sandpaper(!) or worse to try and remove rust spots from the winding wheel and pretty much ruined it, optically at least. One of the case screws also appears to be wrong. My guess is that it is larger than the original, so the threads are likely destroyed. There are also some nasty screwdriver marks in that area where they apparently slipped while trying to cram the (too big) screw in.

It seems obvious to me that someone with no talent or interest was at work here and that kind of thing scares me. Who knows what else you might find if you were able to have a look UNDER the hood?

Re: 992 in base metal case.

New postPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:02 pm
by veritas
Good answer Mike, i did not look at that picture of the marks, pretty sad.I agree you could do better.

Re: 992 in base metal case.

New postPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:21 pm
by Glyn Meredith
Here is a pic of the movement:

992mov.jpg

For $195, I would keep looking, Dennis.

Re: 992 in base metal case.

New postPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:32 pm
by veritas
One more thing i want to add, i paid about 140 dollars for just the movement, it was a good deal i felt and then put it in a case i had, it was a way to get a nice watch at a good price and i found a case for a loose movement, which always makes me happy.Dennis you might want to think of doing this, just a thought.
By the way there are many nice and reliable movements out there.

Re: 992 in base metal case.

New postPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:39 pm
by Radar
I will heed the advice and leave it alone. Thank you.

Radar

Re: 992 in base metal case.

New postPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 11:43 pm
by Marty101
Nice eye Mike-I didn't catch the sanded wheel right off.
Hey Kevin- that $200 price seems a little high to me,I wouldn't pay that much.... :o

Re: 992 in base metal case.

New postPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 4:21 pm
by veritas
200 dollars is a high enough price to pay for a watch service. But if you dont know anyone , then you might have to pay this. My buddy gives me the best rates for work, like 60 dollars for a clean and oil and a balance staff replacement.