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Badische Uhrenfabrik

New postby Irwin » Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:04 pm

My next one is a Badische Uhrenfabrik dating from 1902(?)
From the listing photos, I think it's Plate 1019. It's difficult to see. The 3-ball pendulum is No.28, which goes with Plate 1019. Beside the pendulum Terwilliger notes, 'Not well designed'. Maybe this is a sign of trouble to come?

From the photos it looks like the movement and pendulum have been together for a long time, so I am hopeful I've done the right thing.

There is a spectacular Junghans with a 'governer' regulated disc coming up in a couple of days. I think the price is going to go through the roof.

Here's what I got. I'll post better pics when it arrives in a few days.

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And here's the eye watering Junghans.

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Re: Badische Uhrenfabrik

New postby brownsrplm » Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:51 pm

Irwin,
I believe the design problem was with the pendulum which made it hard to regulate. This is another one that I like the looks of and had considered getting at some point. If you do have problems with it try this: change out the pendulum with a standard 4 ball of the same weight and see if it works more reliably. If it does you could always run it that way but keep the correct one on hand just for re-sale purposes.

Of course if you are like me you will be up to 16 of them and looking for more of everything, clocks, space, money, time. :D
Love your clock, I think I'm going to save up for a Kaiser!!
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Re: Badische Uhrenfabrik

New postby richiec » Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:58 pm

Get a Henry J instead of a Kaiser.
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Re: Badische Uhrenfabrik

New postby brownsrplm » Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:01 pm

Kevin,
Why a Henry J?
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Re: Badische Uhrenfabrik

New postby brownsrplm » Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:03 pm

I just got that one, ha, ha. Still isn't a Kaiser worth more?
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Re: Badische Uhrenfabrik

New postby Irwin » Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:17 am

The Junghans sold for US$675.
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Re: Badische Uhrenfabrik

New postby brownsrplm » Mon Jan 27, 2014 2:23 pm

I haven't followed Junghans much, but I know they are good clocks and that one looked in great shape. The question is, how fair a price is that?
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Re: Badische Uhrenfabrik

New postby Irwin » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:16 pm

Not sure about 'fair', but I just saw another one with a Buy it Now asking price of US$2295. Looks like the two extremes of the distribution curve. I would like one, but not at that price and I mean the low figure of these two examples.
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Re: Badische Uhrenfabrik

New postby Irwin » Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:53 pm

Received a message from the seller last night apologizing for the delay in sending the clock to me, the reason being that when he was unhooking the pendulum he bent the suspension wire. So he has taken it to a clock repairer to install a new wire and have the timing adjusted.
I was planning to do that....
It seems I have bought from an honourable gent. If he had sent it 'as is' I would have been none the wiser.
It'll be interesting to see what arrives. Anyway, I plan to strip it down and clean it up etc.
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Re: Badische Uhrenfabrik

New postby veritas » Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:29 pm

Nice Irwin, you have good taste in 400 day clocks. Ray i guess you meant to say Richie.
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Re: Badische Uhrenfabrik

New postby brownsrplm » Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:51 pm

Kevin,
I got caught off guard with the Henry J. thing and lost who I was replying to. I still prefer the Kaiser to the Henry J. ;)
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Re: Badische Uhrenfabrik

New postby Irwin » Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:11 pm

While I am waiting for my clock to arrive, I wondered if anybody might have some thoughts about this one currently being listed, eBay item number: 380828978108.
It is more out of the ordinary, since it also displays day and month. I wonder if the design actually works as surely to move the day and date train will also require power, and there isn't a lot being released at any one moment on a torsion clock. Would the clock have sufficient 'whack' to make this work? Maybe I'm wrong. It's just my thought.

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Re: Badische Uhrenfabrik

New postby brownsrplm » Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:03 pm

Irwin,
With a slight variation this is a Kienzle plate # 1602. The one in Terwilliger's book has twisted spires holding the crown on either side, but other than that it's the same clock. It also looks as though someone painted the base, probably to hide the oxidation?

I also took a close look at the bottom of the movement and the hands do in fact work. You can see the escape wheel (kind of like the wheel for the moon dial on a grandfather clock) on the left side bottom in the picture.
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Re: Badische Uhrenfabrik

New postby brownsrplm » Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:31 pm

I didn't read his full description. He states that the base is black marble.
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Re: Badische Uhrenfabrik

New postby Irwin » Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:14 pm

It's certainly tempting.
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